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[JPDribbler]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="Andreas1969" post_id="385296" time="1508773270" user_id="31771"><s>

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würde ich das Technicolor TC4400 empfehlen.
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Bist Du sicher, dass das auch Eurodocsis 3.0 kann und nicht nur Docsis 3.0 <E>:kratz:</E>
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Ja, laut Spezifikationen ganz sicher, siehe z.B. hier: <URL url="https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2314011~7d751eebdf474fefbf12658cd1320773/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf"><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/ ... z_9-16.pdf">https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2314011~7d751eebdf474fefbf12658cd1320773/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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Auch die Frequenzen stimmen mit denen von Unitymedia überein, siehe hier <URL url="http://www.mischobo.de/Kabel/kanalbelegung.html">http://www.mischobo.de/Kabel/kanalbelegung.html</URL> (weiter unten die Frequenzen fürs Internet)<br/>
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? Data DOCSIS® 3.1 compliant<br/>
? CMTS interoperability Any qualified DOCSIS 3.1 CMTS<br/>
Any qualified (Euro)DOCSIS® 3.0 CMTS<e></e></B><br/>
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Screenshot aus der PDF oben:<br/>
<IMG src="https://abload.de/img/tc4400u8sy7.png"><s>

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[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r>Wenn es wirklich Eurodocsis 3.0 kann, bin ich dabei.<br/>
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+1 <E>:zwinker:</E></r>

 

[JPDribbler]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="Edding" post_id="385297" time="1508773654" user_id="9208"><s>

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<QUOTE author="Andreas1969" post_id="385296" time="1508773270" user_id="31771"><s>

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<QUOTE author="JPDribbler" post_id="385295" time="1508773123" user_id="6306"><s>

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würde ich das Technicolor TC4400 empfehlen.
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Bist Du sicher, dass das auch Eurodocsis 3.0 kann und nicht nur Docsis 3.0 <E>:kratz:</E>
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Ja kann es aber ka ob dafür ein firmware update nötig ist<br/>
<URL url="https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2314011~7d751eebdf474fefbf12658cd1320773/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf"><s></s><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.ds...73/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf</LINK_TEXT><e></e></URL>
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hmm, meinst du eine andere Firmware könnte notwendig sein?</r>

 

[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="JPDribbler" post_id="385314" time="1508780578" user_id="6306"><s>

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hmm, meinst du eine andere Firmware könnte notwendig sein?
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Das wäre schlecht. <br/>
Woher bekommt man die dann <E>:kratz:</E> <br/>
Und kann die dann nur per Provider aufgespielt werden?</r>

 

[Gizeh775]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><URL url="http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/cable-modems-gateways/tc4400"><s></s><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.tec...s/cable-modems-gateways/tc4400</LINK_TEXT><e></e></URL><br/>

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</s>Thanks to DOCSIS/EuroDOCSIS 3.0 backwards compatibility, the TC4400 can also be seamlessly deployed on existing infrastructure as a DOCSIS 3.0 modem, providing 32 bonded downstream and 8 bonded upstream channels. What’s more, it offers flexible DOCSIS 3.0/DOCSIS 3.1 upstream and downstream frequency up to 204 MHz split.<e>

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[JPDribbler]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="Gizeh775" post_id="385320" time="1508784325" user_id="33798"><s>

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<URL url="http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/cable-modems-gateways/tc4400"><s></s><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.tec...s/cable-modems-gateways/tc4400</LINK_TEXT><e></e></URL><br/>

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</s>Thanks to DOCSIS/EuroDOCSIS 3.0 backwards compatibility, the TC4400 can also be seamlessly deployed on existing infrastructure as a DOCSIS 3.0 modem, providing 32 bonded downstream and 8 bonded upstream channels. What’s more, it offers flexible DOCSIS 3.0/DOCSIS 3.1 upstream and downstream frequency up to 204 MHz split.<e>

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Danke. Denke auch, dass es keine Probleme geben sollte.<br/>
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Ich merke schon, es herrscht ein großes Interesse an einem guten Modem... <E>:smile:</E></r>

 

[nts]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>Wahrscheinlich gibt es dann aber trotzdem keine Möglichkeit die Firmware von dem Teil zu aktualisieren, oder? Wäre ärgerlich wenn die Updates nur seitens des Netzbetreibers aufgespielt werden können und wir damit quasi von allen Aktualisierungen ausgeschlossen wären</t>

 

[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="nts" post_id="385337" time="1508789262" user_id="36346"><s>

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Wahrscheinlich gibt es dann aber trotzdem keine Möglichkeit die Firmware von dem Teil zu aktualisieren, oder? Wäre ärgerlich wenn die Updates nur durch den Netzbetreiber aufgespielt werden können und wir damit quasi von allen Aktualisierungen ausgeschlossen wären
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Bei einem guten Modem lässt sich die FW über's WEB IF aktualisieren. Vielleicht kann man das ja vorher noch in Erfahrung bringen.</r>

 

[nts]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>Jo wäre auf jeden Fall vorher noch interessant. Zumindest bei den freien Modems, die in den USA verkauft werden, geht das nämlich wohl nicht.</t>

 

[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="Grinder" post_id="385291" time="1508771340" user_id="7934"><s>

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Einen Kumpel mit Gewerbebetrieb hätte ich. Der würde das auch über die Firma laufen lassen und an mich privat weiterverkaufen.<br/>
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Bekämen wir genug Interessenten zusammen?
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@Grinder <br/>
Butter bei'de Fische.<br/>
Wenn Du das über Deinen Kumpel organisieren kannst, lass uns 7 Stück von den TC4400 für 105$ bestellen. <br/>
Das wären knapp 90€ + Märchensteuer + Versandkosten.<br/>
Dann wären wir mit knapp 120€ pro Nase dabei.<br/>
Scheint mir für ein Docsis 3.1 Modem OK zu sein.<br/>
Es sollten sich doch mind. 7 Interessenten hier finden lassen (abzüglich uns Beiden fehlen dann noch 5) <E>:zwinker:</E></r>

 

[addicted]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>TC4400 mach ich mit.<br/>
Wenn's am Ende an einer Person mangelt, nehm ich auch zwei. Das krieg ich schon weitervertickt.</t>

 

[Grinder]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

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<QUOTE author="Grinder" post_id="385291" time="1508771340" user_id="7934"><s>

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Einen Kumpel mit Gewerbebetrieb hätte ich. Der würde das auch über die Firma laufen lassen und an mich privat weiterverkaufen.<br/>
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Bekämen wir genug Interessenten zusammen?
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@Grinder <br/>
Butter bei'de Fische.<br/>
Wenn Du das über Deinen Kumpel organisieren kannst, lass uns 7 Stück von den TC4400 für 105$ bestellen. <br/>
Das wären knapp 90€ + Märchensteuer + Versandkosten.<br/>
Dann wären wir mit knapp 120€ pro Nase dabei.<br/>
Scheint mir für ein Docsis 3.1 Modem OK zu sein.<br/>
Es sollten sich doch mind. 7 Interessenten hier finden lassen (abzüglich uns Beiden fehlen dann noch 5) <E>:zwinker:</E>
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Moin, ich habe es grade schonmal bei ihm in der Firma versucht. Da er dort auch Geschäftsführer ist und hier zur Zeit Herbstferien sind, hat er für sich selbst diese Woche eine Woche Urlaub beantragt und auch direkt genehmigt ;-)<br/>
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Ich werde heute Nachmittag einen kurzen unangekündigten rein privaten Besuch bei im vornehmen und schauen, ob er da ist.<br/>
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Ich sehe aber gute Chancen, dass das klappt, da ich ihn schon seit Sandkasten-Zeiten kenne.<br/>
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Alternativ hätte ich noch meinen direkten Nachbarn in der Hinterhand, der ebenfalls Vollzeit einen Gewerbebetrieb betreibt. Da ich es in den vier Jahren, seit dem wir hier wohnen, noch nicht geschafft habe, mich mit ihm zu zoffen, sehe ich da auch ganz gute Chancen auf Hilfe.<br/>
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Über die die Risiken, die bei dieser Konstellation (B2B mit Weiterverkauf an eine Privatperson zur Weiterleitung an andere Privatpersonen) entstehen können (ggf. keine Gewährleistung und kein Support durch den Hersteller etc.), ist sich jeder im Klaren?<br/>
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@addicted: alles klar, ist notiert.</r>

 

[perryair]

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<t>Moin,<br/>
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also ich würde mich da auch beteiligen bei dem technicolor tc4400 ....<br/>
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Gruß</t>

 

[MartinP_Do]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>Ich bin noch etwas hin- und hergerissen, ob ich mit bei der TC4400 Bestellung beteilige ...<br/>
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Angesichts der Gründe für den schnellen Wechsel bei der Kauf-Fritzbox 6490 von Firmware 6.83 über 6.84 nach 6.85 könnte es schon Potential auch in der TC4400 Firmware geben, nicht korrekt mit dem Unitymedianetz zu harmonieren.... insbesondere an DSLite Anschlüssen ...<br/>
Da könnte man sehr schnell im Regen stehen...</t>

 

[monster]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="MartinP_Do" post_id="385367" time="1508830612" user_id="33822"><s>

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Ich bin noch etwas hin- und hergerissen, ob ich mit bei der TC4400 Bestellung beteilige ...<br/>
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Angesichts der Gründe für den schnellen Wechsel bei der Kauf-Fritzbox 6490 von Firmware 6.83 über 6.84 nach 6.85 könnte es schon Potential auch in der TC4400 Firmware geben, nicht korrekt mit dem Unitymedianetz zu harmonieren.... insbesondere an DSLite Anschlüssen ...<br/>
Da könnte man sehr schnell im Regen stehen...
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Geht mir ähnlich.... Der Gedanke reizt sehr, aber das Risiko mal eben 120€ in den Sand zu setzen ist auch da :-(<br/>
Aber ein reines Modem mit nem Router hintendran ist schon seeeehr verlockend.</r>

 

[perryair]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>Die frage ist da eher wie viel da wirklich am Modem gearbeitet wurde, eher an der Funktionserweiterung in der FritzBox.</t>

 

[JPDribbler]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

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Ich bin noch etwas hin- und hergerissen, ob ich mit bei der TC4400 Bestellung beteilige ...<br/>
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Angesichts der Gründe für den schnellen Wechsel bei der Kauf-Fritzbox 6490 von Firmware 6.83 über 6.84 nach 6.85 könnte es schon Potential auch in der TC4400 Firmware geben, nicht korrekt mit dem Unitymedianetz zu harmonieren.... insbesondere an DSLite Anschlüssen ...<br/>
Da könnte man sehr schnell im Regen stehen...
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Geht mir ähnlich.... Der Gedanke reizt sehr, aber das Risiko mal eben 120€ in den Sand zu setzen ist auch da :-(<br/>
Aber ein reines Modem mit nem Router hintendran ist schon seeeehr verlockend.
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DS Lite muss der Router können, nicht das Modem. Ich denke nicht, dass ein funktionierendes Modem ständig Firmware Updates benötigt. Trotzdem werde ich mich noch einmal schlau machen ob wir igendwie Updates auf die Kiste (TC4400) bekommen können.</r>

 

[perryair]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r>AVM hat da in den Versionen :<br/>
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6.62 Kompatibilität mit verschiedenen Kabelanbietern verbessert <br/>
Verbesserung - Einrichtungsassistent für den Internetzugang<br/>
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6.83 einen aktuellen Modem Treiber Implementiert<br/>
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6.84 Aktueller Modemtreiber implementiert<br/>
Verbesserung - Optimierte Geschwindigkeit bei fragmentierten UDP-Paketen<br/>
Behoben - Sporadischer Verbindungsverlust bei Verwendung von nur einem Upstream-Kanal<br/>
Verbesserung - Optimierte Geschwindigkeit bei Verwendung von DS-Lite<br/>
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6.85 Behoben - möglicher Verbindungsverlust nach IPv6-Aushandlung im Modemtreiber an speziellen Anschlüssen (Vodafone/KDG)<br/>
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Die Versuchen da glaub eher das Chipsatz Problem zu umgehen oder zu verschlimmbessern <E></E></r>

 

[MartinP_Do]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r>Habe ein Datenblatt gefunden<br/>
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<URL url="https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2314011~7d751eebdf474fefbf12658cd1320773/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf"><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/ ... z_9-16.pdf">https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2314011~7d751eebdf474fefbf12658cd1320773/TC4400_EXT_v02_MHz_9-16.pdf</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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Bedeutet "Transparent Bridging", dass man DSLite wirklich über einen nachgeordneten Router machen könnte?<br/>

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</s>Routing modes Transparent bridging<br/>
Multiple client support 32<br/>
Class of services 16 downstream IDs<br/>
16 upstream service flows<br/>
Network protocol Dual stack IP (IPv4, IPv6)<br/>
TCP, UDP, ARP<br/>
ICMP, DHCP<br/>
TFTP, SNMP, HTTP, Telnet<br/>
Protocol filtering Ethernet and IP<e>

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Nachtrag: "go2mhz.com" ist eine Seite, die man vielleicht lieber nur mit Vorsicht ansurfen sollte...<br/>

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[Grinder]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r>Auf dem folgenden Datenblatt wird DS-Lite noch namentlich erwähnt im Gegensatz zu dem grade verlinkten Datenblatt.<br/>
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<URL url="https://www.gentek.com/resellers/specs/TNTC4400VDN.pdf">https://www.gentek.com/resellers/specs/TNTC4400VDN.pdf</URL></r>

 

[MartinP_Do]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<t>"Upstream spectral analyzer" - wenn das Feature wirklich wörtlich stimmt, wäre das interessant ...</t>

 

[Edding]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="MartinP_Do" post_id="385377" time="1508835295" user_id="33822"><s>

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"Upstream spectral analyzer" - wenn das Feature wirklich wörtlich stimmt, wäre das interessant ...
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Ja die Broadcoms können das wohl ... schau mal hier<br/>
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<URL url="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31563033-Broadcom-Chip-Spectrum-Analyzer"><s></s><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.dsl...roadcom-Chip-Spectrum-Analyzer</LINK_TEXT><e></e></URL></r>

 

[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="Grinder" post_id="385363" time="1508828965" user_id="7934"><s>

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Über die die Risiken, die bei dieser Konstellation (B2B mit Weiterverkauf an eine Privatperson zur Weiterleitung an andere Privatpersonen) entstehen können (ggf. keine Gewährleistung und kein Support durch den Hersteller etc.), ist sich jeder im Klaren?
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Das dürfte bei so einer Aktion wohl allen klar sein.<br/>
Da hab ich absolut kein Problem mit, ist mir die Sache wert <E>:zwinker:</E></r>

 

[nts]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="JPDribbler" post_id="385371" time="1508831511" user_id="6306"><s>

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Trotzdem werde ich mich noch einmal schlau machen ob wir igendwie Updates auf die Kiste (TC4400) bekommen können.
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Schon direkt bei TC nachgefragt? Dass die DSL Reports Leute, die ja teilweise auch Zugriff aufs TC4400 haben, im Puma 6 Thread über die Updatefunktion der Fritzboxen überrascht sind, stimmt mich nicht sonderbar optimistisch <E></E> <br/>
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UM schreibt dazu unter <URL url="https://www.unitymedia.de/content/dam/dcomm-unitymedia-de/hilfe---service/doc/NTP_Provider_Interface_Spec_Unitymedia.pdf"><s></s><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.un..._Interface_Spec_Unitymedia.pdf</LINK_TEXT><e></e></URL>:
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</s>6.2. Firmware Updates<br/>
Unitymedia will not include CVC information in bootfile.<br/>
Therefore, Unitymedia will not trigger Secure Software Download being referenced in [i.4] Chapter<br/>
8.2.3, [i.3] Chapter 12.1 and [i.5] Chapter 14.<br/>
Updates for Docsis Cable Modem and / or eRouter MAY be installed via vendor-own solution, for<br/>
example local GUI Upload / flash.
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Wäre cool wenn das Modem das selbst erkennt und abhängig davon die Updatefunktion im Webinterface freischaltet. Aber weil das Teil überhaupt nicht direkt an Endkunden verkauft wird könnte es auch einfach keine geben? <E>:kratz:</E></r>

 

[Andreas1969]

Re: Sammelliste aller FREIEN Kabelmodems

<r><QUOTE author="nts" post_id="385383" time="1508840097" user_id="36346"><s>

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Wäre cool wenn das Modem das selbst erkennt und abhängig davon die Updatefunktion im Webinterface freischaltet. Aber weil das Teil überhaupt nicht direkt an Endkunden verkauft wird könnte es auch einfach keine geben?
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Na, ob man wirklich ein FW Update braucht, wenn das Ding einmal läuft <E>:kratz:</E> <br/>
Ist ja nur ein reines Modem. Die Ciscos laufen ja auch heute noch anstandslos mit teilweise 10 Jahre alter FW. <E>:winken:</E></r>